Monday, April 12, 2010

story telling

fiction: i wasn't a fan of this part of the film, in actuality i disliked all of the characters. the kid with cp for trying too hard to get sympathy and really making vi feel like crap. vi was two faced to both her bf and the professor and in hte end trying to stir up sympathy too. she tells the story as if it was rape, but shes the one who approached him and went through with everything without fighting back or saying no. the professor really manipulated vi, but can't say he was horrifically wrong because she let him, she approached him.

non-fiction: i liked this part of the film because of its comic nature, but it was a little rediculous at times and the ending with the house being blown up is horrible. we spoke how mikey the little brother was pure evil, but i dont think so. he may have been offensive to the maid, but he was only telling the truth, and when he hypnotized his father, right before it the father told him it wasn't going to be ok and that they were lying to eachother saying it will be to not depress each other. so i don't feel that the hypnosis was too wrong. the father was pushing scoob to go to college and used his influence to make him do so, but he only wants him to wise up and have himself a future.

a common trait between the two films is people being people. in both films each character was either portrayed as both innocent, and wicked, but in actuality its just human nature where they are both. except for the maid ... she blew up a house so to hell with her.

the red box scene i wanted to say was only disturbing at close up when u saw her face, in agony and having to say what he wanted her to say, and the box i feel did make it worse. but its the dialogue that made the scene bad in my opinion, especially given what she chanted to herself 2 minutes prior to her self in the bathroom

wanted to throw this out there in a totally unrelated note. i was watching the show "everybody hates chris" with my little brother the other day and well there was an episode where he convinces his teacher to have the class watch movies and write papers on those as opposed to reading books ... i said thats a great idea! and then i realized im already taking that class!

4 comments:

  1. I agree with the whole rape thing. How can she consider it rape if she is the one that went up to the teacher at a bar and persued having sex with him? At any point she could have said "stop," but she never did. Part of me thinks she calls it rape because she is unsatisfied with the decision she makes and it clouds her judgement.

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  2. ya, and its funny how she keeps tellin herself to not be racist and then he makes her say the most racist term

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  3. I think it's interesting that you made this point Jason---Vi's understanding of her life is problematic. I think that's the point. On the other hand, she didn't "ask for" that kind of humiliation. On the other hand she's kind of a victim of her own weakly understood notion of being a nonracist, and so on---its a hard call. She is both sympathetic and nonsympathetic, perhaps, and neither position is held for very long...

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  4. Joe: I agree that Solondz was pretty brilliant with the red box...instead of wiping out the "bad bits" it makes the whole thing exaggeratedly uncomfortable.

    I'm also glad to see you don't agree with me about Mikey...we'll be talking this over in class next week, so you can bring your interpretation up then, I hope..

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